In this elementary school children's book, Lady Lucy's Dragon Quest, Lady Lucy overcomes gender discrimination and stereotypes to save the day by changing a fire breathing dragon into a water spouting dragon. On this edition of Conversations, Karen Gross joins us to talk about her series of books featuring Lady Lucy. Gross is an author, educator, and higher education consultant based in Washington, D.C. She is also a former college president and a former Senior Advisor to the U.S. Department of Education.