LISTEN LIVE KPR - On Air: Listen Live to classical, jazz and NPR news Schedule LATEST
KPR 2 - On Air: Listen live to KPR's all talk-radio service, KPR2 Recordings

Share this page              

When Deciding To Live Means Avoiding Guns

Listen to the Story

People who have easy access to firearms are about three times more likely to kill themselves than people who don't have access to guns, a recent study from the University of California, San Francisco, indicates.

When you're managing a mental health issue, home's not always a safe place.

I recently talked with a 23-year-old in Oakland, Calif., who says he's worried about an upcoming visit to his aunt's home on the East Coast. He's afraid of what he might do to himself there.

"I know that in my aunt's house there are three guns in the basement," says the young man, who asked that NPR not use his name.

He goes back to visit his family once a year, he explains, and usually stays with the aunt who owns the guns. Knowing where those weapons are stored is a particular problem for him, he tells me — he's tried to commit suicide nine times over the past 13 years.

"Having tools for suicide completion ... makes it way more tempting to attempt or complete suicide," he says.

A recent research review from the University of California, San Francisco, suggests he's not the only person who feels this way: The analysis indicates that people who have access to firearms are about three times more likely to kill themselves than people who don't have access to guns.

But what happens when you can't control the fact that there's a gun nearby?

Some states, like Missouri and Florida, have laws forbidding doctors from asking patients about gun access and ownership. But that's not the case in California, where managed-care provider Kaiser Permanente asks every teen patient about guns during their checkups, as part of its screening for potential health risks.

To give us a better idea of how those conversations go, Dr. Lauren Hartman, who helped found Kaiser's East Bay teen clinic, ran through the typical interview — with Youth Radio's Kasey Saeturn playing the role of the patient:

Hartman: "So I see on the questionnaire you've checked 'yes' to having exposure to guns. Do you, your parents, or any of your friends have access to a gun?"

Saeturn: "Yes."

Hartman: "Where is the gun kept in your home?"

Saeturn: "Typically, like, on top of the closet."

Hartman: "The gun isn't locked up?"

Kasey: "No."

That's a red flag for the doctor, and a signal she needs to intervene.

Hartman: "So, Kasey, if it's OK with you, I would like to talk to your parents about how to keep the gun safely at home."

Hartman estimates that 15 to 20 percent of her patients tell her they have access to a gun. And when they do, she takes it seriously. How often do Hartman's patients say they have thoughts about harming themselves?

"That unfortunately gets a lot of yeses," she tells me.

Dr. David Brent, a psychiatrist at the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine who studies suicide and suicide prevention among at-risk teens, says thinking about suicide isn't always a danger signal. About 20 percent of adolescents have fleeting thoughts of death, he says, adding that the percentage of people who actually have a plan about how to carry that out is much lower.

But when someone who is actively considering killing himself or herself also has access to a gun, the possibility of suicide gets a lot more real. In a study published by researchers at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in 2001, 1 in 4 survivors of nearly lethal suicide attempts estimated that once they decided to kill themselves, they took less than 5 minutes to attempt it. Though underlying depression may be chronic, suicidal acts are often impulsive and fleeting the scientists say — get past the temptation and the urge may recede.

It's not unusual for kids to struggle with mental health issues. Brent says that teaching young children coping skills — or how to handle overwhelming emotions — can help prevent serious mental health crises later in life.

The 23-year-old in Oakland I spoke with says he remembers feeling sad and alone as far back as first grade.

"Kinda wish someone had actually asked me what I was feeling," he says, "versus assuming I was doing OK."

Today, although he still has suicidal thoughts at times, he says the way he reacts to his emotions has changed.

He says he now starts preparing mentally, months in advance of visiting his aunt, making what he calls "safety contracts" with his therapist and his friends. Since learning how to avoid and cope with his psychological triggers, he says, he's at a place where he no longer sees suicide as inevitable.

"I think as I grow older," he says, "I can see further into the future."

Reporter Desmond Meagley is 18 years old and lives in Berkeley, Calif. This story was produced by Youth Radio.

Copyright 2015 Youth Radio. To see more, visit .

Tower Frequencies

91.5 FM KANU Lawrence, Topeka, Kansas City
89.7 FM KANH Emporia
99.5 FM K258BT Manhattan
97.9 FM K250AY Manhattan (KPR2)
91.3 FM  KANV Junction City, Olsburg
89.9 FM K210CR Atchison
90.3 FM KANQ Chanute
96.1 FM K241AR Lawrence (KPR2)

See the Coverage Map for more details

Contact Us

Kansas Public Radio
1120 West 11th Street
Lawrence, KS 66044
Download Map
785-864-4530 (Main Line)
888-577-5268 (Toll Free)